Behringer or Yamaha?

[SLIPKNOT1]

Originally Posted by AndJustice4All68

dont let people talk down on Behringer, thats for sure.
a mixer is a mixer, its all about who is using it and how youre doing it.

WHAT??

A mixer is a mixer? Maybe in fantasyland. So all those people who buy A&H, Yamaha, Mackie, Digidesign, Midas, etc are just throwing money away and as long as they are good at what they do, they could achieve the same quality of sound with a Behringer? Right......

That is just sound quality. How about options. Why don't you compare some of the models and explain how they are all the same.

[-=Steve=-]

Originally Posted by AndJustice4All68

a mixer is a mixer, its all about who is using it and how youre doing it.

[InSight]

I'm in the same boat. I was initially very interested in the Behringer Eurodesk SX2442FX, but I have very little knowledge on the recording world, and after reading this I'm somewhat wary. To me it looked excellent, but I really want something to last without trouble, not to mention light on the wallet and at least 10-12 channels. So now I'm considering something from Yamaha, such as the MG166CX, less channels, and I'm not too sure about it's features; I'll get to that when I really dig in and start learning. Plus it's about $75 less here.

Who thinks that's a good idea?

[SLIPKNOT1]

Originally Posted by InSight

I'm in the same boat. I was initially very interested in the Behringer Eurodesk SX2442FX, but I have very little knowledge on the recording world, and after reading this I'm somewhat wary. To me it looked excellent, but I really want something to last without trouble, not to mention light on the wallet and at least 10-12 channels. So now I'm considering something from Yamaha, such as the MG166CX, less channels, and I'm not too sure about it's features; I'll get to that when I really dig in and start learning. Plus it's about $75 less here.

Who thinks that's a good idea?

Quality over Quantity.

What would you rather have? An 8 Piece Export kit, or a 5 Piece Reference kit?

Well, i would rather have an 8 channel Yamaha mixer over a 12 channel Behringer mixer.

[weps]

Originally Posted by SLIPKNOT1

Quality over Quantity.

What would you rather have? An 8 Piece Export kit, or a 5 Piece Reference kit?

Well, i would rather have an 8 channel Yamaha mixer over a 12 channel Behringer mixer.

A great example, Slip. And a great example, when you think about it, that COST is the major factor in the final decision. an 8pc Export can be had new for $1000 USD or so while the 5pc Reference will cost nearer $2500 usd, both street prices.

And to throw "stuff" into the game, of the above two choice, I'd likely choose a third, a Peavey FX series ;>) Actually the best choice is a used A&H Mixwiz for about $600 (series 3) or $500 (series 2).

weps

[notsocoolguy]

Originally Posted by AndJustice4All68

dont let people talk down on Behringer, thats for sure.
a mixer is a mixer, its all about who is using it and how youre doing it.

Your kidding right...?

I'll go sell my Midas console then and replace it with a Behringer!! GOOD ONE!!

To the OP, if you can get the FP10 for around the same as your mixer, I'd HIGHLY recommend going for it man! The flexibility it would give you over a mixer is unreal, and even if your only doing little demo recording things, you'll never be limited by it as you will a small mixer!!

[TWH]

To the OP, if you can get the FP10 for around the same as your mixer, I'd HIGHLY recommend going for it man! The flexibility it would give you over a mixer is unreal, and even if your only doing little demo recording things, you'll never be limited by it as you will a small mixer!!

I actually ended up going with the Yamaha MG166CX with the built-in effects. The FP10 is something I will more than likely add in the future.

I also ordered up some shure mics, (Beta52, 3 SM57's, and 2 SM94 overheads for the cymbals) which brings me to my next question. I'll be using these on a 6 piece kit identically set up as the one pictured below. (my old EX) Can I mic two drums with one 57?? One between the 10 and 12, and one between the 14 and 16?? Since the close proximity of each drum, I'm thinking that with careful placement of the mics, I should have no problem....

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcomed

[Damo]

Of course you can, and its a very common way to do things, especially live.

Keep in mind that you will lose individual control to an extent if you do it that way, but for the sake of picking up the whole kit, its a handy way to mic similar sounding instruments...

[Stumpjumper_steve]

Absolutely. I miked two drums per mic for years and never had a single complaint (most of the people at our shows probably aren't PDF forum members so that may attribute largely to the amount on non-discriminatory equipment remarks we so often see on here...anyway, I digress!)

You'll have some great success out of the Yamaha and good luck in your endeavors.

-Drum on!

[TWH]

Thanks!.....

[Alwaysdrummer]

Originally Posted by -=Steve=-

if it's for recording you'd be better of with something like a presonus fp10 imo

Out of those two I'd definitely choose the yamaha, they make pretty decent mixers for the money

I agree 100%. I was in the same boat. With those mixers, you'll have to dial everything in BEFORE you record. If you're recording yourself, that's tough. Also, everything will wind up being on one track. With the presonus firepod (fp10), it plugs into your computer with ONE firewire, you can separate the tracks, then eq afterword. Best thing about it, they're not that expensive, at least not as expensive as those multitrack digital recorders. Not to mention 8 inputs! Awesome for drummers

[Tre Cool The 2nd]

My god :O

Im surprised Behringer havent been slated by everyone :O
Madness. It would seem the stereotype is clearing over Behringer.

I own two Behringer mixers and I cant flaw them. One has sctratchy things but me being an idiot I leaned over it and a drip of sweat messed up a fader.

Anyway, if you treat it well the Behringer will last you a very long time. If you are an eegit who chucks it around the place you dont deserve to own anything like that, but I know you probably arent it just seems that lots of people spend a little money on cheap behringer gear, mess it up and complan about them. I have one new power mixer which works great for the past 5 years and I have a used MX3242 mixer and the last owner cared for it as if it was family and its in great condition for an old mixer, infact its perfect.

I just wanted to post so you discount Behringer because you can read lots of negative reviews.

Best of luck with your choice.
Regards
Rob

btw. if you go firewire Id go for Focusrite Pro 40. A beast of a machine. Prosonus apparently share some Behringer components but Focusrite is all Focusrite and derived from their high end ranges.

EDIT:
I really should read the thread creators posts before I post. haha. I didnt realise you went for the Yammie.

Best of luck in your adventures!!