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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......................... Oh did he say something, I was looking at the picture of the girl in his signature!
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Very nice thread. I learned something about the tom angles :].
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Thanks again all for the nice comments! I really hope this thread gets stickied. Does a mod like Al just run into here, read it, and decide it's sticky worthy, or do I have to "propose" this article to him through a PM and ask if it's possible?
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excellent post, but clearly setting up your drums "right" is only part of not getting bashed by PDFers.
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Pretty good explanations without going into too much detail--which is good because there isn't one perfect way to set up a drum set. Everyone has their own way that works for them.
One thing I might add, is snare height. It seems like a ton of guys mount their snare too low. Ergonomically speaking, that same idea you said with the toms--keeping the stick as parallel as possible--should be applied to the snare. |
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Awesome thread! Have some REP
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Like I said before, you should set up the drums so that you drum stick (the stick itself) hits almost parallel to the drum head; not too parallel that you would constantly be doing rimshots, but parallel enough so that the stick's tip hits perpendicular to drum head (otherwise, the force of the stick strikes straight "into" the head rather than hitting it at angles and creating slicing or glancing hits). A good height can be determined by first relaxing and lifting your hands and forearms up to make a 90 degree angle with your elbow (as if you were typing or playing the piano). The videos of the late Jim Chapin demonstrating the Moeller Method on YouTube shows this perfectly. The top of the snare should lie anywhere comfortable between the space created by the top of your lap and the underside of your forearms/hands (considering that your forearms and thighs are relatively parallel). Obviously, don't have the top of the snare higher than this position of your arms, and avoid having it lower than your lap. For me personally, the top of my snare is about 5 inches above my lap. This shortens the distance between my snare and rack tom, but also puts the snare head in a natural position for me to strike the tip of the drumstick perpendicular to the head. Again it would differ between players depending on their overall setup. Your hi-hat height is generally high enough to give your left hand enough room for a stroke, but low enough so that you don't have to lift your dominant arm higher than your chest to play. For me, my hi-hat and rack tom heights are very close to each other, the rack tom maybe being a bit higher by an inch or a half. If you use a double bass setup, try to get a hold of those hi-hat/bass drum clamps so that you don't have to twist your body in order to play the hi-hat or hi-hat patterns.
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![]() Al told me that there are only a certain amount of stickies for each section, so that determines your answer really. Congratulations on an excellent thread Falken. I have a question for you lol... So I have my snare set up pretty much as you suggest height wise, angled slightly, higher at the farthest edge. I actually have trouble rimshotting my snare, I have to drop my hand to my lap to rimshot, and feel like I'm hitting uphill. (Have a look in my sig at the DX kit and you can see how I'm setup) Any suggestions?
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i noticed something you didn't hit but very good on the thread.
i'm talking about how high it is recommended by some to have the throne set. i've heard and believe that is best to have the throne set to where your legs form about a 90 degree angle at the knee. i've found that having less than that angle that you can lose power and if you have too big of an angle, then you lose some control. i think i wrote that right. lol. but anyway yeah, it's still preference. |
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Or you could raise the height in small increments. Either way will probably help you get the desired sound.
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Thanks for your thoughts on this. I don't rimshot a lot, so it's not like it's an eternal nightmare lol. In the past I have flattened out my snare a bit and I find it a very fine line in between just right and constantly rimshotting. I need to have a good hard look at how I'm setting up one day soon...
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